He first had contact with the Witnesses back in the early 1930 ’ s when he went to the door to get rid of them ​ — and came back with some of their books in his hands!
Jehovas lieciniekus viņš pirmo reizi bija sastapis 30. gadu sākumā, kad viņš bija gājis pie durvīm, lai tiktu no tiem vaļā, bet bija atgriezies istabā ar vairākām liecinieku grāmatām rokā.